Wat gaan de Amerikaanse spelers nu doen?

Door HansytheKing, geplaatst op maandag 18 april 2011, 12:00. Views: 4.

Julio Rodriquez van Cardplayer sprak met veel bekende Amerikaanse online kanonnen over de uitsluiting van online poker in de Verenigde Staten. Hij vroeg hen wat hun plannen nu waren en hoe zij de nabije toekomst voor zich zien. Velen van hen gaan zich de komende tijd op het live poker richten. Andere denken hard op aan verhuizen naar het buitenland. De veelal jonge internet spelers zien terug gaan naar school/studie ook als een zeer serieuze optie.

Jason "JP OSU" Potter — ($1.8 miljoen aan toernooiwinsten)

I have been considering going back to school for quite some time now independent of these legal developments. Honestly, this was just the push I needed. The upcoming World Series of Poker will probably be my last hurrah. I'll go back and finish my undergraduate degree and then I'll likely go to law school. I'll always play poker because I still love it, but this is pretty much the end to my time as a full-time pro.


Steve Gross

Steve "gboro780" Gross — ($4.1miljoen aan toernooiwinsten)

My first priority is to get better at live poker, then I can concentrate on some things that aren't poker related. It will be nice to actually relax on Sundays. If things get really bad, I could always apply for a job at Del Taco.

 

Thayer "THAY3R" Rasmussen — ($2.6 miljoen aan toernooiwinsten)

I'll probably try out the live pro thing for a bit or look into other entrepreneurial endeavors. After the World Series of Poker, I might consider moving to another country.

 

Dan "HundoFight" O'Brien — ($1.1 miljoen aan toernooiwinsten)

This news was certainly disappointing, but I'm primarily a live player so it's not life ending. I'm still going to travel the circuit, but I'll probably focus a little more time on my business and live cash games. I am definitely voting for Ron Paul in 2012. He is the only politician I trust to do anything, whether I agree with his views or not. I also think online poker will be legalized and regulated within the next two years.

 

David Sands

David "Doc Sands" Sands — ($2.4 miljoen aan toernooiwinsten)

I really like my live game right now and I'm fortunate to be bankrolled to play just about everything on the live circuit, so I'm not too concerned. That being said, I am very glad that I finished college and have a degree to fall back on.

David Sands is lid van Doyle's room. De room die onlangs het Cake Poker Netwerk inruilde voor het Yatahay Netwerk.

 

Jason "jdpc27" Wheeler — ($1.5 miljoen aan toernooiwinsten)

My immediate plans are to establish residency in Mexico and continue to play online, albeit with reduced prize pools, until everything is sorted out. I honestly believe that Canada or Mexico will be a temporary solution for many

 

Anthony "holdplz" Spinella — ($2.1 miljoen aan toernooiwinsten)

I'm going to see how long it looks like it will take for online poker to return. If it becomes apparent that it's not coming back, moving out of the country is definitely an option.

 

Joseph "subiime" Cheong — ($4.7 miljoen aan toernooiwinsten)

I might travel the world, playing and living here and there from month to month. Other than that, I plan to play a lot of golf and workout. The sites will be back before I could establish citizenship anywhere else anyway.

Joseph Cheong

 

Luke VrabelLuke "Bdbeatslayer" Vrabel — ($2.8 miljoen aan toernooiwinsten)

For the time being, I'm going to enjoy my money and play a little live poker. It was fun while it lasted, but I always knew that the government was just waiting to pounce. I'm just surprised that everyone else is so stunned by this news. If you are dumb enough to have 90 percent of your net worth online, well, good luck. I know some players who have $500,000 online that are asking me for loans just because their money is going to be locked up for awhile.

 

Dan "djk123" Kelly — ($4.1 miljoen aan toernooiwinsten)

I'm going to join the world Scrabble tour.

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Veel reacties gelezen ondertussen. Ik hoop dat Pokerstars en de overheid ons niet gaat beroven.

I have been playing poker for several years now. When I graduated from a top university with a degree in finance, and lack of jobs given the current climate poker was my best option. I'm not in love with poker, but I felt the game provided me a way to make an honest living and provide for myself and family.

Unintentionally, I have probably learned more from poker in the few years I have been playing it than I have from almost 20 years of formal education. The people I have met and lessons I have learned from poker reach far beyond what I have ever learned about people or life from behind a desk.

I feel that poker is a pure and honest game. The difference with poker and other businesses/financial markets is that the motives and goals of both parties in poker is clear...to win the other players money by making better decisions. There is no politics, no hidden agendas, we are making decisions against competitors in an environment where results are provided almost immediately.
Everyone has access to equal information and the playing field is level. I cannot say this same thing about the financial markets that are held in such higher esteem than poker.

If you understand the nature and mathematics of poker, there is no conceivable way that it cannot be considered a game of skill.

Socially, most people look down upon people that play poker such as myself. I think this is likely because they don't understand the game. We are not playing against casinos, we are playing against other consenting adults in a game of decision making skill where information, motives, and results are completely transparent and fair.

I have derived substantial income from poker, and paid substantial taxes as a result of it. Without online poker, there is a good chance I will go from paying money to the US gov, to needing aid from the US government.

If for some reason player funds from this debacle are taken and not returned...it will be very clear and transparent who the dishonest party is in this situation.

I pay rake to online poker sites to provide me a safe and secure platform to play a game of skill that I believe it is my right to do so. They have fulfilled their end of this deal.

I pay the US govt to provide me protection, security, and freedom. Through this shakedown my freedom has been curtailed. If my money located in poker sites is taken by them, not only have they not provided me freedom, but they have stolen from me as well. If this were to happen, not only were my rights violated, but I was also actively stolen from. It is my position that they would not be holding up their end of this deal. I would in effect be paying money to be persecuted while conducting an honest non criminal life.
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Het is niet zo interessant wat al die succesvolle pro's nu gaan doen, tijdje stoppen en gaan studeren met een paar miljoen op de bank, naar het buitenland en verder pokeren, live gaan spelen, opties genoeg.

Het gaat er om wat de average speler die al die opties niet heeft gaat doen, degene die niet even makkelijk naar het buitenland kan en die geen easy access heeft tot een brick & mortar (te ver of mogelijk niet legaal in zijn staat e.d.). Internetpoker was afgezien met de moeilijkheden van storten/uitcashen door de UIGEA wel een stuk laagdrempeliger. Dat maakt het voor de pro's aan de top, maar ook voor de winnende amateur (in de zin van geen pro) ook weer moeilijker omdat de pyramide aan de onderkant afkalft.
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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Parkiet Bekijk bericht
Voor wie het interessant vindt, hier nog een heleboel verhalen.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...80/index2.html
Voordat je dit doet eerst een paar tabletjes prozac innemen.
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Voor wie het interessant vindt, hier nog een heleboel verhalen.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57...80/index2.html
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Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door boney Bekijk bericht
De nederlandse gesponsorde pro's zullen wel niet de WSOP mogen spelen met reclame?
In de VS moest je sowieso altijd .NET patches dragen. Die leiden naar de play money websites van de pokerrooms. Die zijn nog gewoon in de lucht. Ze kunnen gewoon de logo's blijven dragen.
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De nederlandse gesponsorde pro's zullen wel niet de WSOP mogen spelen met reclame?
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Dan "djk123" Kelly — ($4.1 miljoen aan toernooiwinsten)

I'm going to join the world Scrabble tour.
Wat een baas
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